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		<title>By: todd sharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I&#039;ve been researching the XPS lately - Dell is charging $750 (yes, $750) to upgrade to a 64gb SSD...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I&#039;ve been researching the XPS lately &#8211; Dell is charging $750 (yes, $750) to upgrade to a 64gb SSD&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tony,

Agreed, though I&#039;m not a fan of smaller is better. I&#039;ll take a moving parts HDD any day. Since stuffing my laptop in an envelope isn&#039;t a priority to me, I&#039;ll be happy with a bit more machine...

I think the problem is, Steve and company is more interested in setting records, than delivering what their customers want.

iPod touch, that&#039;s maxed at 16gb? Because Solid state is too pricey beyond that, make it a freaking HDD based unit then!

now this with it&#039;s unreplaceable battery so that it can be crowned the lightest, thinnest ultra portable... Do any of us care if it&#039;s thinner than the Sony? Would we buy the Sony if this had been the same size or bigger? Since the Sony has been out a while, I&#039;m guessing the answer is no.

Oh well though. I&#039;m hopeful that at some point in the future apple decides  that building what the customer wants, vs what&#039;s pretty, thin, light, etc is where they should be, it&#039;s where they were, then they went on this ultra light, thin kick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony,</p>
<p>Agreed, though I&#039;m not a fan of smaller is better. I&#039;ll take a moving parts HDD any day. Since stuffing my laptop in an envelope isn&#039;t a priority to me, I&#039;ll be happy with a bit more machine&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the problem is, Steve and company is more interested in setting records, than delivering what their customers want.</p>
<p>iPod touch, that&#039;s maxed at 16gb? Because Solid state is too pricey beyond that, make it a freaking HDD based unit then!</p>
<p>now this with it&#039;s unreplaceable battery so that it can be crowned the lightest, thinnest ultra portable&#8230; Do any of us care if it&#039;s thinner than the Sony? Would we buy the Sony if this had been the same size or bigger? Since the Sony has been out a while, I&#039;m guessing the answer is no.</p>
<p>Oh well though. I&#039;m hopeful that at some point in the future apple decides  that building what the customer wants, vs what&#039;s pretty, thin, light, etc is where they should be, it&#039;s where they were, then they went on this ultra light, thin kick.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Fendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Fendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all your points, but there comes a point where what gadget geeks like ourselves start asking for the impossible :)

Did you see the size of that thing? It&#039;s tiny! To make anything that small they have to custom build the batteries, motherboard, processor and harddrive and then cram them all together so they end up all tangled.  Nicely spaced/laid out components which can be easily removed/replaced is a luxury which they can&#039;t afford.

Having said that, I wont be buying one either. Even if they do ever start selling them in my part of the world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all your points, but there comes a point where what gadget geeks like ourselves start asking for the impossible :)</p>
<p>Did you see the size of that thing? It&#039;s tiny! To make anything that small they have to custom build the batteries, motherboard, processor and harddrive and then cram them all together so they end up all tangled.  Nicely spaced/laid out components which can be easily removed/replaced is a luxury which they can&#039;t afford.</p>
<p>Having said that, I wont be buying one either. Even if they do ever start selling them in my part of the world</p>
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		<title>By: john W</title>
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		<dc:creator>john W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam, My point is, I think Apple is not making a device that the people want, or that the people want to compromise on. I know I certainly don&#039;t I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s smaller than Sony&#039;s, that&#039;s purely Apple/Steve ego at work. The general public doesn&#039;t care either. Yes 2-4 pounds makes a difference, a battery, doesn&#039;t weigh a pound.

I agree the Air is targeted at travelers, that&#039;s why I want one. But find any traveler and look in their bag, they&#039;ll have more than one battery. The Air is for the &#039;traveler&#039; who doesn&#039;t go very far. What&#039;s Apple&#039;s target audience going to do when they fly over seas? 5 hours, not when you watch a movie I bet, 5 hours... I think the flight to Italy I&#039;ll be taking is a bit more than that.

The Air is targetted at Steve having a legacy of pushing the envelope (the one that has a laptop in it I guess) of size, which is fine, but he makes compromises that I think the public won&#039;t be down with, I know I&#039;m not.

@Lola. 2nd (as it would be for me) or third or forth, it&#039;s still sub useful. Sure it&#039;d be great to have on my nightstand, in an envelope, and on the kitchen counter, etc. But that&#039;s a device, not a laptop. That&#039;s the Emate.

Gruber makes many good points, I don&#039;t agree with him on the battery. The iPhone is a device. it&#039;s a phone. In America most of us, throw them out after 2 years when our contracts are up. Those that keep a phone 5-10 years, don&#039;t own iPhones. Those that toss every two, don&#039;t care that the battery is sealed, because 2 years won&#039;t see a big hit in performance. I replace my batteries after 3-4 (my moto was a sucker, i had like three extras). Laptops aren&#039;t devices. ESPECIALLY mac laptops. Look how many powerbooks are still out in the world. Macs are made to be long lived, the Air, is made to not be long lived. 2gb RAM, cap, no swap out. Bad RAM, latop goes on a trip. No battery, battery gets flakey after 2 years, laptop goes on a trip. Hard drive acts up (asuming you don&#039;t have the scrath for the SS one), laptop goes on a trip. 

No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam, My point is, I think Apple is not making a device that the people want, or that the people want to compromise on. I know I certainly don&#039;t I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s smaller than Sony&#039;s, that&#039;s purely Apple/Steve ego at work. The general public doesn&#039;t care either. Yes 2-4 pounds makes a difference, a battery, doesn&#039;t weigh a pound.</p>
<p>I agree the Air is targeted at travelers, that&#039;s why I want one. But find any traveler and look in their bag, they&#039;ll have more than one battery. The Air is for the &#039;traveler&#039; who doesn&#039;t go very far. What&#039;s Apple&#039;s target audience going to do when they fly over seas? 5 hours, not when you watch a movie I bet, 5 hours&#8230; I think the flight to Italy I&#039;ll be taking is a bit more than that.</p>
<p>The Air is targetted at Steve having a legacy of pushing the envelope (the one that has a laptop in it I guess) of size, which is fine, but he makes compromises that I think the public won&#039;t be down with, I know I&#039;m not.</p>
<p>@Lola. 2nd (as it would be for me) or third or forth, it&#039;s still sub useful. Sure it&#039;d be great to have on my nightstand, in an envelope, and on the kitchen counter, etc. But that&#039;s a device, not a laptop. That&#039;s the Emate.</p>
<p>Gruber makes many good points, I don&#039;t agree with him on the battery. The iPhone is a device. it&#039;s a phone. In America most of us, throw them out after 2 years when our contracts are up. Those that keep a phone 5-10 years, don&#039;t own iPhones. Those that toss every two, don&#039;t care that the battery is sealed, because 2 years won&#039;t see a big hit in performance. I replace my batteries after 3-4 (my moto was a sucker, i had like three extras). Laptops aren&#039;t devices. ESPECIALLY mac laptops. Look how many powerbooks are still out in the world. Macs are made to be long lived, the Air, is made to not be long lived. 2gb RAM, cap, no swap out. Bad RAM, latop goes on a trip. No battery, battery gets flakey after 2 years, laptop goes on a trip. Hard drive acts up (asuming you don&#039;t have the scrath for the SS one), laptop goes on a trip. </p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also intended to be a 2nd laptop, 2nd computer, whatever for people on the go.  It would be perfect for moving around the house - keep next to the bed, or in the living room, etc.  See Gruber&#039;s comments at daringfireballs.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s also intended to be a 2nd laptop, 2nd computer, whatever for people on the go.  It would be perfect for moving around the house &#8211; keep next to the bed, or in the living room, etc.  See Gruber&#039;s comments at daringfireballs.net.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John: You can&#039;t have it all!  In order to make such a thin laptop certain compromises had to be made regarding battery and disk storage.  

I&#039;ve said this to many people but the MacBook basic model contains the computing power needed for almost all users.  (Just don&#039;t buy the extra memory from Apple, go to Other World Computing -- cheaper prices and powered by ColdFusion :) )

The Air is targeted at people who travel and for whom 2-4 pounds will make a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John: You can&#039;t have it all!  In order to make such a thin laptop certain compromises had to be made regarding battery and disk storage.  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve said this to many people but the MacBook basic model contains the computing power needed for almost all users.  (Just don&#039;t buy the extra memory from Apple, go to Other World Computing &#8212; cheaper prices and powered by ColdFusion :) )</p>
<p>The Air is targeted at people who travel and for whom 2-4 pounds will make a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael,

I think Niche is probably a good description of it. I don&#039;t think mainstream will ever be the category, so niche fits. Hope you enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael,</p>
<p>I think Niche is probably a good description of it. I don&#039;t think mainstream will ever be the category, so niche fits. Hope you enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I think Apple is not making a device that the people want...&quot;

Well, I want one, so I guess that they&#039;re making a device that SOME people want. Which is, come to think of it, the very definition of a niche product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp;quot;&#8230;I think Apple is not making a device that the people want&#8230;&amp;quot;</p>
<p>Well, I want one, so I guess that they&#039;re making a device that SOME people want. Which is, come to think of it, the very definition of a niche product.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/01/Apple-youre-getting-really-good-at-getting-right-up-to-the-mark-and-stopping/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael, 
 
I think Niche is probably a good description of it. I don&#039;t think mainstream will ever be the category, so niche fits. Hope you enjoy it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael, </p>
<p>I think Niche is probably a good description of it. I don&#039;t think mainstream will ever be the category, so niche fits. Hope you enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I think Apple is not making a device that the people want...&quot;

Well, I want one, so I guess that they&#039;re making a device that SOME people want. Which is, come to think of it, the very definition of a niche product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;I think Apple is not making a device that the people want&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Well, I want one, so I guess that they&#8217;re making a device that SOME people want. Which is, come to think of it, the very definition of a niche product.</p>
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