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	<title>Comments on: The Cloud isn&#8217;t all that</title>
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		<title>By: jwilker</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>jwilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah exactly. AIR, google gears etc. Light SQLite DBs for state, etc. It seems many business plays have decided to leap frog this intermediate step and just go all in on Cloud computing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah exactly. AIR, google gears etc. Light SQLite DBs for state, etc. It seems many business plays have decided to leap frog this intermediate step and just go all in on Cloud computing.</p>
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		<title>By: barry.b</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>barry.b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saj is right. the proper alternative (especially if you&#039;re wanting to tap into online collaboration) is occasionally connected desktop apps that are easy to update (and who&#039;s update is part of the subscription price). Essentially you&#039;re leasing the sortware  as part of the service with the cloud as the collaboration / globally accessible storage.  
 
In our neck of the woods, this means AIR and also this is where the next version of MS Office will go. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saj is right. the proper alternative (especially if you&#039;re wanting to tap into online collaboration) is occasionally connected desktop apps that are easy to update (and who&#039;s update is part of the subscription price). Essentially you&#039;re leasing the sortware  as part of the service with the cloud as the collaboration / globally accessible storage.  </p>
<p>In our neck of the woods, this means AIR and also this is where the next version of MS Office will go.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know... 
 
Sun servers are expensive, and for most of what I do a basic AMD or Intel server seems to do me fine.  
 
;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know&#8230; </p>
<p>Sun servers are expensive, and for most of what I do a basic AMD or Intel server seems to do me fine.  </p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: jwilker</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>jwilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The Saj 
 
LOL. I&#039;d prefer mostly sunny with sporadic clouds :) </description>
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<p>LOL. I&#039;d prefer mostly sunny with sporadic clouds :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason the Saj</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason the Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzzword AIR...  :-) 
 
Cloud and local...in other words, the future many of us want is a &quot;Local weather forecast - partly cloudy!&quot; 
 
;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzzword AIR&#8230;  :-) </p>
<p>Cloud and local&#8230;in other words, the future many of us want is a &quot;Local weather forecast &#8211; partly cloudy!&quot; </p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: jwilker</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>jwilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. I like the &quot;access anywhere&quot; idea, but since for me, anywhere tends to be where there&#039;s no internet connection, it&#039;s not really a win. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I like the &quot;access anywhere&quot; idea, but since for me, anywhere tends to be where there&#039;s no internet connection, it&#039;s not really a win.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Downes</title>
		<link>http://johnwilker.com/2008/12/the-cloud-isnt-all-that/comment-page-1/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The push to the cloud is primarily driven by companies wishing to have a recurring model that they can rely on. Installable software is less easily controlled, and users can decide not to upgrade. Not so with cloud-based apps. In regards to hosting your apps on the cloud, IMHO it is way overhyped. It&#039;s expensive and really not much more than a large virtualization platform. I understand the scaling and uptime benefits, but most apps and sites have no need for these things. I would certainly consider the cloud depending on the needs, but I am not easily convinced that everyone needs the cloud or that cloud-based applications are the way to go. Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I still like having a tangible piece of software that I control in my environment </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The push to the cloud is primarily driven by companies wishing to have a recurring model that they can rely on. Installable software is less easily controlled, and users can decide not to upgrade. Not so with cloud-based apps. In regards to hosting your apps on the cloud, IMHO it is way overhyped. It&#039;s expensive and really not much more than a large virtualization platform. I understand the scaling and uptime benefits, but most apps and sites have no need for these things. I would certainly consider the cloud depending on the needs, but I am not easily convinced that everyone needs the cloud or that cloud-based applications are the way to go. Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I still like having a tangible piece of software that I control in my environment</p>
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