Comments on: This is why Journalists suck http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/ John Wilker: Community, Code, Randomness Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:39:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WordSmyth http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-3725 WordSmyth Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:43:41 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-3725 You have to spoon-feed them stuff because most journalists are not terribly well educated. Even big cities are paying reporters $35,000 a year. I can make more money being a local high school teacher. TV stations and newspapers ought to be hiring people with diverse technical and educational backgrounds to properly report on a beat. Instead, they don't, knowing that hiring someone with specialized knowledge in one area and specialized knowledge (and a competency) in journalism would be EXPENSIVE! The old model of journalism from the dawn of television until probably the year 2000 or 2005 was to schmooze someone into thinking they'd be super-awesome to have their stuff appear on a famous TV show. That line of thinking does not apply at all anymore, but television station and newspaper owners don't understand that, because they grew up when times were different. You have to spoon-feed them stuff because most journalists are not terribly well educated. Even big cities are paying reporters $35,000 a year. I can make more money being a local high school teacher. TV stations and newspapers ought to be hiring people with diverse technical and educational backgrounds to properly report on a beat. Instead, they don't, knowing that hiring someone with specialized knowledge in one area and specialized knowledge (and a competency) in journalism would be EXPENSIVE! The old model of journalism from the dawn of television until probably the year 2000 or 2005 was to schmooze someone into thinking they'd be super-awesome to have their stuff appear on a famous TV show. That line of thinking does not apply at all anymore, but television station and newspaper owners don't understand that, because they grew up when times were different.

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1659 John Wilker Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:02:27 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1659 ha, thanks saurik! No worries. the news was definitely all you, and you deserve it 100%. ha, thanks saurik! No worries. the news was definitely all you, and you deserve it 100%.

]]> By: Jay Freeman (saurik) http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1658 Jay Freeman (saurik) Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:48:19 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1658 For my part, I will say that I definitely made it clear to everyone I talked to that I was announcing the Cydia Store features at your conference ;P. For my part, I will say that I definitely made it clear to everyone I talked to that I was announcing the Cydia Store features at your conference ;P.

]]> By: Tom http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1608 Tom Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:42:01 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1608 You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts." Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch as was asking for a discount code so he could write about it. I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me. However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice. You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts."

Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch as was asking for a discount code so he could write about it.

I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me.

However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice.

]]> By: Tom http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 Tom Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:42:01 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1609 You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts." Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch as was asking for a discount code so he could write about it. I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me. However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice. You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts."

Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch as was asking for a discount code so he could write about it.

I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me.

However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice.

]]> By: Tom http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1610 Tom Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:42:01 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1610 You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts." Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch and was asking for a discount code so he could write about it. I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me. However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice. You left out TechCrunch. I could be mistaken, but here's the situation as it went down. I'm at the Silicon Valley iPhone meetup (led by Tim Burks). I announce the show and it's incredibly low price. A shout from the audience, "Is there a TechCrunch discount?" To which I reply, "No, tickets are priced low already. There's not really room for discounts."

Now, I thought the person was asking if there was a TechCrunch discount out there. However, after relating the story, many pointed out that the guy was likely from TechCrunch and was asking for a discount code so he could write about it.

I have no way of knowing which was true, but I certainly hope that TechCrunch is not that low. With holding news that your customers could use simply because no discount was giving seems shady to me.

However, I'm with you on the press front. People keep saying they're lazy and don't want to work for a story. You have to spoon feed them, etc. I just can't believe that. Maybe it's true though. I'd hope not, because if so, that's a sad statement on journalism as a practice.

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1607 John Wilker Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:23:50 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1607 Hey Jeremy, Thanks for chiming in! I forwarded the email i sent. I would hope if it went to the wrong addy, the recipient would forward to the right one? Hey Jeremy, Thanks for chiming in! I forwarded the email i sent. I would hope if it went to the wrong addy, the recipient would forward to the right one?

]]> By: Jeremy Horwitz http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1606 Jeremy Horwitz Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:05:20 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1606 John, one of my editors e-mailed me this link, and I can tell you that I never received an e-mail from you regarding this. Please send me a quick e-mail at jeremy (at) iLounge.com and let me know where you sent your request for coverage, so that I can determine what happened -- it's possible that your e-mail wasn't sent to the right address. John, one of my editors e-mailed me this link, and I can tell you that I never received an e-mail from you regarding this. Please send me a quick e-mail at jeremy (at) iLounge.com and let me know where you sent your request for coverage, so that I can determine what happened — it's possible that your e-mail wasn't sent to the right address.

]]> By: Tim http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1605 Tim Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:58:32 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1605 Yeah, people like that annoy me to no end. You are working at a big time publication, ACT LIKE IT! You should block them from now on. It's their loss, not yours. Don't give up on all journalists though, there are a few of us left that actually care about journalistic integrity and doing silly things like including facts. Yeah, people like that annoy me to no end. You are working at a big time publication, ACT LIKE IT!

You should block them from now on. It's their loss, not yours.

Don't give up on all journalists though, there are a few of us left that actually care about journalistic integrity and doing silly things like including facts.

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/03/this-is-why-journalists-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-1604 John Wilker Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:40:43 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=722#comment-1604 True True, and I made sure to not say "all" journalists suck :) I suppose "journalist" is probably the wrong term in general for most of those sites, despite what they'd like to think. I'm especially annoyed with WSJ, and the reporter definitely earned a "no thank you" for her paper at future events. I mean, why give you a free pass if you can't be bothered to show the tiniest bit of love for the location of the news. It's not worth it to us. True True, and I made sure to not say "all" journalists suck :) I suppose "journalist" is probably the wrong term in general for most of those sites, despite what they'd like to think.

I'm especially annoyed with WSJ, and the reporter definitely earned a "no thank you" for her paper at future events. I mean, why give you a free pass if you can't be bothered to show the tiniest bit of love for the location of the news. It's not worth it to us.

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