Comments on: Trade in my Kindle for a nook? http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/ John Wilker: Community, Code, Randomness Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:19:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anton http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Anton Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:19:30 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-3183 I think that this review is one of the BEST. What gets me the MOST is that by low the content I bought is mine and I have right to do what I want with it. And what Kindle (amazon) does is illegal. (you are not able to take you books with you) Based on my argument I predict that in near future: Some one will come up with software that will convert between all eBook formats - simply because all market is about freedom and because it is huge market for this software. Please let me know what are you thoughts about itA I think that this review is one of the BEST.
What gets me the MOST is that by low the content I bought is mine and I have right to do what I want with it.
And what Kindle (amazon) does is illegal. (you are not able to take you books with you)
Based on my argument I predict that in near future:

Some one will come up with software that will convert between all eBook formats – simply because all market is about freedom and because it is huge market for this software.

Please let me know what are you thoughts about itA

]]> By: Jim http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-3114 Jim Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:15:41 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-3114 I've ordered a Nook after waiting to see what Apple was producing. The iPad is a lot of things but an eBook reader is not one of them. My reasons are as follows. The Nook, with its Android operating system, is open and hackable. The Nook has been out three months and it's already rooted with a soft hack. Check out the programs that are up at nookDevs. <a href="http://nookdevs.com/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://nookdevs.com/Main_Page</a> Don't like DRM? Talk to i♥cabbages. He's the man with a plan. Hate proprietary formats? Don't get a Kindle. The Nook supports ePUB and PDF. Life is so good. I've ordered a Nook after waiting to see what Apple was producing. The iPad is a lot of things but an eBook reader is not one of them.

My reasons are as follows.

The Nook, with its Android operating system, is open and hackable. The Nook has been out three months and it's already rooted with a soft hack. Check out the programs that are up at nookDevs.
http://nookdevs.com/Main_Page

Don't like DRM? Talk to i♥cabbages. He's the man with a plan.

Hate proprietary formats? Don't get a Kindle. The Nook supports ePUB and PDF.

Life is so good.

]]> By: gbig http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2741 gbig Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:49:37 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2741 Bonus points to me....Sublime - Date Rape. Bonus points to me….Sublime – Date Rape.

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2554 John Wilker Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:51:28 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2554 Yeah it looks like B&N clued in real fast on the pricing disparity. That's good, looks like the 9.99 price is settled on. I'd argue that B&N hasn't listened at all to what consumers don't like in the Kindle, any more than Palm did with the Pre. I say this based on my complaints, and the common threads I see on Kindle Forums. 1. folders, tagging or someway at all of organizing content. Amazon has ignored the request, and with Android it should have been a slam dunk, yet it's ignored on the Nook too. 2. DRM All B&N has really done is take the Kindle, add a few bells and whistles, take a few bells and whistles off. You're right the iPhone wasn't (and still isn't) perfect when it debuted, but it was lightyears ahead of it's competition, and remains so. The Nook isn't ahead of the Kindle in any meaningful ways, and the jury's out on whether the Publishing industry lets Android be completely open. The Nook isn't, sadly, any less crippled by the publishers than the Kindle. Text to speach (crippled to uselessness on the Kindle) has been replaced with Lending, which if even allowed to be activated, is already pretty much crippled to uselessness. :( If you do swap out, definitely let me know what you think! I'm eager to hear some first hand impressions. Yeah it looks like B&N clued in real fast on the pricing disparity. That's good, looks like the 9.99 price is settled on.

I'd argue that B&N hasn't listened at all to what consumers don't like in the Kindle, any more than Palm did with the Pre. I say this based on my complaints, and the common threads I see on Kindle Forums.

1. folders, tagging or someway at all of organizing content. Amazon has ignored the request, and with Android it should have been a slam dunk, yet it's ignored on the Nook too.
2. DRM

All B&N has really done is take the Kindle, add a few bells and whistles, take a few bells and whistles off.

You're right the iPhone wasn't (and still isn't) perfect when it debuted, but it was lightyears ahead of it's competition, and remains so.

The Nook isn't ahead of the Kindle in any meaningful ways, and the jury's out on whether the Publishing industry lets Android be completely open. The Nook isn't, sadly, any less crippled by the publishers than the Kindle.

Text to speach (crippled to uselessness on the Kindle) has been replaced with Lending, which if even allowed to be activated, is already pretty much crippled to uselessness. :(

If you do swap out, definitely let me know what you think! I'm eager to hear some first hand impressions.

]]> By: BookWhore http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2553 BookWhore Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:28:04 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2553 I have a Kindle and have looked into the Nook eBook pricing. It is about the same in my opinion. I have decided to trade my kindle for a nook. I think in the long run it will be totally worth the investment. I think what we do need to realize is that we are really on like the 3rd or 4th attempt at the kindle. Amazon has had time to play around and market to see what works. Barnes and Noble is taking from those experiences and building on the general consumer complaints about the kindle. I think that we will steadily see vast improvements as BN starts to add applications and software updates. Nothing that comes out at first is 100%-- look at the bloody iPhone. I have a Kindle and have looked into the Nook eBook pricing. It is about the same in my opinion. I have decided to trade my kindle for a nook. I think in the long run it will be totally worth the investment.

I think what we do need to realize is that we are really on like the 3rd or 4th attempt at the kindle. Amazon has had time to play around and market to see what works. Barnes and Noble is taking from those experiences and building on the general consumer complaints about the kindle. I think that we will steadily see vast improvements as BN starts to add applications and software updates.

Nothing that comes out at first is 100%– look at the bloody iPhone.

]]> By: The Nook, From "I need" to "I'll Pass" in a week. | johnwilker.com http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2536 The Nook, From "I need" to "I'll Pass" in a week. | johnwilker.com Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:46:58 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2536 [...] in the span of a week, the nook from Barnes & Noble has gone from zero to hero and is now hovering around, “dude I kinda look up to, a little, but not enough to want to be [...] [...] in the span of a week, the nook from Barnes & Noble has gone from zero to hero and is now hovering around, “dude I kinda look up to, a little, but not enough to want to be [...]

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2583 John Wilker Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:04:28 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2583 yeah i really, really hope B&N get's a clue on pricing. they don't have to be lower than Amazon, but they MUST be the same. eBook pricing has a lot to do with the devices success. yeah i really, really hope B&N get's a clue on pricing. they don't have to be lower than Amazon, but they MUST be the same. eBook pricing has a lot to do with the devices success.

]]> By: Tom Gonzalez http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2582 Tom Gonzalez Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:50:45 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2582 I was thinking the same thing as you John, about getting a Nook, until I heard about B & N pricing which is across the board higher than Amazon. Apparently some titles are over 50% more expensive. I guess B & N is betting on the allure of the hardware to suck people in.... bad bet in my opinion. I was thinking the same thing as you John, about getting a Nook, until I heard about B & N pricing which is across the board higher than Amazon. Apparently some titles are over 50% more expensive. I guess B & N is betting on the allure of the hardware to suck people in…. bad bet in my opinion.

]]> By: John Wilker http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2581 John Wilker Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:27:43 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2581 Unknown (at least I haven't seen it). It uses ePub, which is more open and becoming industry standard. I haven't seen any talk about using their own flavor of ePub, so I assume (Hope) that it's DRM on the existing standard, so that might be portable. Nook to Kindle, probably as "no go" as Kindle to Nook. There's hacks, but I don't see an official method existing until eBooks get more ubiquitous and consumers realize they're "being butt raped by a large inmate" (Bonus for name that song!) AKA, Amazon and B&N. Also i saw on another blog this morning. B&N hasn't figured out eBook pricing and trends several dollars per title higher than amazon. Maybe that will change when the Nook actually hits the street, but if not, that's a deal breaker. Unknown (at least I haven't seen it). It uses ePub, which is more open and becoming industry standard. I haven't seen any talk about using their own flavor of ePub, so I assume (Hope) that it's DRM on the existing standard, so that might be portable.

Nook to Kindle, probably as "no go" as Kindle to Nook. There's hacks, but I don't see an official method existing until eBooks get more ubiquitous and consumers realize they're "being butt raped by a large inmate" (Bonus for name that song!) AKA, Amazon and B&N.

Also i saw on another blog this morning. B&N hasn't figured out eBook pricing and trends several dollars per title higher than amazon. Maybe that will change when the Nook actually hits the street, but if not, that's a deal breaker.

]]> By: Brent Bonet http://johnwilker.com/2009/10/trade-in-my-kindle-for-a-nook/comment-page-1/#comment-2580 Brent Bonet Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:08:55 +0000 http://johnwilker.com/?p=975#comment-2580 I haven't looked into it yet, but won't you have the same issue with not being to transfer books from your Nook if something else comes along or if you decide you like the Kindle better and want to transfer your Nook books to it? I haven't looked into it yet, but won't you have the same issue with not being to transfer books from your Nook if something else comes along or if you decide you like the Kindle better and want to transfer your Nook books to it?

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